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December 15, 2017

051 Weed Killer in Vaccines?


Today’s episode is born of frustration.  Fear-mongering non-experts are abusing improper interpretations from an available herbicide detection kit to make claims that herbicides are now found in vaccines.  Namely, they seek to find glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup.  They use a kit you can buy on the internet, but fail to use it in the way it is designed.  Instead of using it on water, they use it on complex mixtures that yield false positives that are interpreted as legitimate signals.

So to push back I want to provide you with the information you need to discuss these topics with confidence.  This topic has no guests.  I reached out to the folks making the claims as well as the company that makes the product, and nobody wants to join the conversation.  It is simply me talking about the claims, the assay, and how you can help debunk the bad information that pollutes this important public discourse. 

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13 Comments on 051 Weed Killer in Vaccines?

    • Stop the muzak!!! Do you know how long it takes to find royalty-free muzak that is truly annoying? A lot of energy goes into that.

      • That’s a shame. I’m able to find annoying things with hardly any effort at all! I should also mention it kept drawing my attention away from the actual spoken broadcast. Kind of like when a commercial has to tell you all the legal stuff and they play some distracting tune in an attempt to get you to not listen.

        The podcast itself was great explanation on how the ELISA assay works. I surmise they do it that way because it may be much easier to see relative differences at the top end of the assay’s span than near the bottom, where random reactions may swamp out a weak signal. Is that true?

    • I don’t have time to listen to the podcast just now, but spot checking it seems the music goes away at about the 8:00 mark. No biggie.

      I was afraid music was going to be present the entire time. That would have been painful.

        • I see what you did here you tricky bastard! See my comment below. 🙂

          I finally got to listen to the podcast today.

          At least I think you were making a metaphor with the music (intentionally).

    • I think the music was a metaphor for the lousy signal-to-noise ratio of the poorly designed Competitive ELISA experiment, as was explained later in the podcast.

  1. I thought they sent the vaccines to the testing lab called Microbe Inotech Laboratories Inc. They posted the result letter from the company. But it didn’t have actual signatures on the lines above the tester names so I’m skeptical.

    From MOM
    “On March 14th, 2016 Moms Across America received preliminary screening results from Microbe Inotech Laboratories Inc. of St. Louis, Missouri. ”

    I agree that they probably measured noise at the tiny levels of their “results” and it wasn’t valid for testing vaccines. Their numbers are riding the lowest end of the detection limit for that company’s testing. There’s also a disclaimer on the company website about not having a validated test for anything other than certain things like water and soil.

    It’s funny when you talk about the glyphosate-free tests being the darker ones because they show something like that in the movie Consumed and it’s easy for a person to think “OMG, all those wells turned dark blue! Dun dun dunnnnnnnn”.

  2. I really liked that you went into detail on how the elisa kit works. It was very informative and I can now understand how anything that interferes with the substrate could cause a false positive result if you aren’t careful to control for its presence.

    As for the muzak; It wasn’t so bad in this particular episode, but I must admit I couldn’t even make it through the previous one because so much of what you said had (quite loud) music playing at the same time. I would appreciate it if you would consider fading out the music quickly (and completely) whenever a segment starts.

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